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		By: Frank Daniels		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 14:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Society of Chief Librarians (SCL); you say they see themselves as politically neutral vis a vis the current state of (public) libraries in the U.K. Perhaps that is true but take each member as an individual and judge them by what they do at work and you will probably find that he/she is anything but apolitical. These are the people who implement the cuts because in doing so they can hold on to their increasingly worthless posts....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Society of Chief Librarians (SCL); you say they see themselves as politically neutral vis a vis the current state of (public) libraries in the U.K. Perhaps that is true but take each member as an individual and judge them by what they do at work and you will probably find that he/she is anything but apolitical. These are the people who implement the cuts because in doing so they can hold on to their increasingly worthless posts&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Leon Bolton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Bolton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 07:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ben, just to pick up your point about Carnegie. He donated money to libraries during a period when philanthropy was very much part of the national culture and psyche. How he made his money in no way invalidates the progression of libraries as a state sponsored public service for the common good. Which many of us seek to protect. In a similar vein many Victorian magnates, of dubious financial riches, would have sponsored the building of hospitals. Again that does not mean we reject the system that it has developed into, namely the NHS. Unless of course you imply we should return to that previous time when public services are sponsored by philanthropy in order to exist? Perhaps the next tranche of new libraries will be Google or Microsoft libraries.

Equally, what you regard as the realpolitik of the SCL many of us regard as furthering a particular brand of political ideology. Exercising our democratic right we disagree, oppose and propose alternatives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, just to pick up your point about Carnegie. He donated money to libraries during a period when philanthropy was very much part of the national culture and psyche. How he made his money in no way invalidates the progression of libraries as a state sponsored public service for the common good. Which many of us seek to protect. In a similar vein many Victorian magnates, of dubious financial riches, would have sponsored the building of hospitals. Again that does not mean we reject the system that it has developed into, namely the NHS. Unless of course you imply we should return to that previous time when public services are sponsored by philanthropy in order to exist? Perhaps the next tranche of new libraries will be Google or Microsoft libraries.</p>
<p>Equally, what you regard as the realpolitik of the SCL many of us regard as furthering a particular brand of political ideology. Exercising our democratic right we disagree, oppose and propose alternatives.</p>
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		By: Mrs Angry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrs Angry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 01:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Lee: 

Carnegie was a philanthropist, with deeply held beliefs, who felt a moral obligation to redistribute the wealth he had accumulated. He did not introduce market values or commercial sponsorship into the public library service, but simply provided the funding necessary to create and sustain these libraries.

Moral obligation and commitment to the principles that drove Carnegie are qualities that are far and few between in the current political and business climate, unfortunately.

Here in Barnet, a council which you know so well, one of the libraries founded with funding from his foundation was shut by the council, and put up for sale. It was occupied by residents who refused to accept the closure of their much loved branch.

Now the same authority is planning a cull of the remaining service, with half the staff being sacked, and the introduction of unstaffed libraries, from which children will be banned. The loss of professional librarians will be catastrophic, and no PR stunt by banks or building societies offering digital &#039;training&#039; can ever replace what we are about to lose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Lee: </p>
<p>Carnegie was a philanthropist, with deeply held beliefs, who felt a moral obligation to redistribute the wealth he had accumulated. He did not introduce market values or commercial sponsorship into the public library service, but simply provided the funding necessary to create and sustain these libraries.</p>
<p>Moral obligation and commitment to the principles that drove Carnegie are qualities that are far and few between in the current political and business climate, unfortunately.</p>
<p>Here in Barnet, a council which you know so well, one of the libraries founded with funding from his foundation was shut by the council, and put up for sale. It was occupied by residents who refused to accept the closure of their much loved branch.</p>
<p>Now the same authority is planning a cull of the remaining service, with half the staff being sacked, and the introduction of unstaffed libraries, from which children will be banned. The loss of professional librarians will be catastrophic, and no PR stunt by banks or building societies offering digital &#8216;training&#8217; can ever replace what we are about to lose.</p>
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		By: Ian Anstice		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Anstice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 23:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.publiclibrariesnews.com/2016/01/halifax-give-a-little-extra-help-or-do-they-and-the-scl-fail-to-directly-support-mylibrarybyright.html#comment-7612&quot;&gt;Ben Lee&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ben, I appreciate you commenting and you&#039;re right. Yes, a bit of a downer on the SCL today as I would have loved them to have come out in favour of the #MyLibraryByRight and I am questioning of the need for for-profit interests (like Halifax) to be welcomed into public libraries.  Having said that, the SCL has also done some remarkably positive things for the public library sector (loving Code Green and PLUIO) and, within their frames of reference, are absolutely doing as well as they can.  I&#039;d also like to point out what a good job the Libraries Task Force is doing in similar vein.  What it comes down to is, I&#039;m not entirely on their side on every issue and will take a critical approach if needed, but will also not unfailingly praise (or damn) everything they do.  I appreciate they have had two negatives in one editorial but, on other occasions, I hope I have been, and will be, positive about them. I&#039;d also welcome a post (by them or by yourself or by anyone) supporting the need to have banks in libraries, with reasons, or why the SCL has not come out in favour of the #MyLibraryByRight campaign as I think neither have been fully made clear in what I have seen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.publiclibrariesnews.com/2016/01/halifax-give-a-little-extra-help-or-do-they-and-the-scl-fail-to-directly-support-mylibrarybyright.html#comment-7612">Ben Lee</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ben, I appreciate you commenting and you&#8217;re right. Yes, a bit of a downer on the SCL today as I would have loved them to have come out in favour of the #MyLibraryByRight and I am questioning of the need for for-profit interests (like Halifax) to be welcomed into public libraries.  Having said that, the SCL has also done some remarkably positive things for the public library sector (loving Code Green and PLUIO) and, within their frames of reference, are absolutely doing as well as they can.  I&#8217;d also like to point out what a good job the Libraries Task Force is doing in similar vein.  What it comes down to is, I&#8217;m not entirely on their side on every issue and will take a critical approach if needed, but will also not unfailingly praise (or damn) everything they do.  I appreciate they have had two negatives in one editorial but, on other occasions, I hope I have been, and will be, positive about them. I&#8217;d also welcome a post (by them or by yourself or by anyone) supporting the need to have banks in libraries, with reasons, or why the SCL has not come out in favour of the #MyLibraryByRight campaign as I think neither have been fully made clear in what I have seen.</p>
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		By: Ben Lee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 23:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Given the relationship banks have had with our society in the past decade inevitably SCL&#039;s initiative with Halifax will be scrutinised. It creates of issues to weigh up but I don&#039;t understand why you end up on the highly emotive neutrality and values point. You were much more balanced about Google Garage (the Google who just admitted owing £130m in tax). Nor have I ever heard the clash of values argument made in relation to Carnegie libraries every one of which bears the eponymous name of one of the biggest and aggressive private steel companies of all time, and its billionaire founder.  So many of the articles and editorials on these excellent, essential pages draw attention to people taking risks and finding new ways to develop and sustain public libraries and reach those who need them most in particular around the digital divide. But this piece viewed alongside the following segment reads more as if you have somehow got into a downer on SCL which seems unfair from someone who obviously understands the realpolitik of SCL and the Task Force as much as the power of campaigns.  I admire your work and efforts but this one left me downcast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the relationship banks have had with our society in the past decade inevitably SCL&#8217;s initiative with Halifax will be scrutinised. It creates of issues to weigh up but I don&#8217;t understand why you end up on the highly emotive neutrality and values point. You were much more balanced about Google Garage (the Google who just admitted owing £130m in tax). Nor have I ever heard the clash of values argument made in relation to Carnegie libraries every one of which bears the eponymous name of one of the biggest and aggressive private steel companies of all time, and its billionaire founder.  So many of the articles and editorials on these excellent, essential pages draw attention to people taking risks and finding new ways to develop and sustain public libraries and reach those who need them most in particular around the digital divide. But this piece viewed alongside the following segment reads more as if you have somehow got into a downer on SCL which seems unfair from someone who obviously understands the realpolitik of SCL and the Task Force as much as the power of campaigns.  I admire your work and efforts but this one left me downcast.</p>
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