Terry Deary: a vested interest acting against his own interests. Rebuttal, with main responses so far
I covered Terry Deary’s comment about libraries yesterday but there’s been more coverage today and more things to be angry about. Therefore, more needs writing on the subject … and here it is:
Terry Deary has at least put the nail in the coffin that authors who support libraries are merely being selfish by claiming that libraries hurt authors and how he’s out of pocket because of their existence. Perhaps the answer to his question “Why are all the authors coming out in support of libraries when libraries are cutting their throats and slashing their purses?” is that other authors are not being as nakedly and shortsightedly selfish.
Those authors in favour of libraries (see here for a list), especially those of children fiction like (but also so unlike) Deary are aware that most of the population with a reading habit cannot afford to buy everything that they want to buy and that limiting access to those with an ability to pay severely detriments literacy and so the future success of the country. This is especially the case with children who may be effectively barred from reading outside of school if their parents cannot afford to pay. Such children of course would not be able to buy Horrible Histories and thus he is not out of pocket. In fact, he’s gaining on the deal as the library is buying a copy of his work which the poorest child would not be able to afford. For those more in the money, the library serves to introduce them to the books and to get them hooked so they’d be more likely to buy them. So, Terry wins again. His argument against “something for nothing” therefore is revealed into what it really is – an author wanting to charge highly for his cake and to be able to eat it too.
In addition, there are many who are not as fortunate as the wealthy Deary – say, for example, those at the edge of society as well as the elderly and the unemployed – who would face a far harsher existence without the libraries that he has taken such a dislike to. A man came up to me a couple of years ago and said he would commit suicide without libraries. Those who work in libraries are all aware of the many people who say “I don’t know what I’d do without a library”. In Deary’s world, they’d need to find out quickly – and I suspect they would lead lonelier, colder, sadder and, yes, shorter lives. Even in purely economic terms (and that’s always a dangerous thing, putting a price on knowledge) public libraries make national sense. Have a look at these reports if you don’t believe me:
- Australia: £1 paid into public libraries results in £2.30 paid back – Queensland Library Dividend Report.
- Australia: £1 paid into public libraries results in £3.50 paid back – Victoria State Library Report / Prometheus, 2012.
- New Zealand: £1 paid into public library services results in at least £4 paid back. “surveys in Australia, USA and the UK all return figures ranging from $4 to $6 of return of investment”, LIANZA (New Zealand) “Questions for political parties.
- USA: $1 paid into library results in $2.86 paid back – University of Toledo study, 2012.
- USA: $1 paid into library results in $4.42 paid back – Texas State Libraries and Archives Commission, 2013.
- UK: £1 paid into library results in £1.60 paid back – Bolton Council, 2005.
- See this list (from page 35) for a large bibliography of articles on the financial benefit of libraries.
The argument that libraries are killing bookshops must come as a shock to everyone who thought that, perhaps, it was cheap internet bookshops and e-books that were responsible for it.
I have seen the author described as proudly calling himself an anarchist and we should all pause a while at what this actually means. It means every man for himself, no government, no safety net. It also, amusingly, Mr Deary, means no copyright protection because there’d be no legal body to enforce it. Luckily though, we do not (the best efforts of this Government notwithstanding) yet live in such a world. We have libraries because we are a society who invests in its young and cares for its old and those down on their luck. A world which Deary envisages would indeed be horrible.
News
- Libraries ‘have had their day’, says Horrible Histories author – Guardian. More from an unrepentant Terry Deary: “”People have to make the choice to buy books. People will happily buy a cinema ticket to see Roald Dahl’s Matilda, and expect to get the book for free. It doesn’t make sense,” he said. “Books aren’t public property, and writers aren’t Enid Blyton, middle-class women indulging in a pleasant little hobby. They’ve got to make a living. Authors, booksellers and publishers need to eat. We don’t expect to go to a food library to be fed.”
“If I sold the book I’d get 30p per book. I get six grand, and I should be getting £180,000. But never mind my selfish author perception – what about the bookshops? The libraries are doing nothing for the book industry. They give nothing back, whereas bookshops are selling the book, and the author and the publisher get paid, which is as it should be. What other entertainment do we expect to get for free?” he asked. Bookshops are closing down, he said, “because someone is giving away the product they are trying to sell.” Terry Deary
- Deary: “libraries have had their day” – BookSeller. Horrible Histories author Terry Deary says much about what is said about libraries is “sentimentality”. See comments.
Notable tweets (with any possibly actionable insults removed)
- Rachel P
@archelina: Child’s reaction to Terry Deary: the library is like soil, it might not look like much but it helps stuff grow.#soproud - Save NCL Libraries
@SNLcoalition: If anyone in Sunderland can arrange a debate between Terry Deary & Alan Gibbons (Alan’s up for it, but what about Terry?) let@mygibbo know! - Emily Beatrice
@LibraryEms: Sad to think that Terry Deary thinks that all the kids who have borrowed his books could have afforded to buy them - Joanne Harris
@Joannechocolat : Today’s WTF: Terry Deary‘s solo attempt to prove that all best-selling authors are venal, ungrateful & out-of-touch. http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/feb/13/libraries-horrible-histories-terry-deary?CMP=twt_gu … - Phil Bradley
@Philbradley: Seriously.. just how THICK is Terry Deary? http://ow.ly/hGHFh Followed by Phil S and 6 others - Tanya
@duxfeminafacti: Libraries also create customers for those bookstores#Deary is so worried about. In short, libraries are not the problem.#librarylove - a. v. walker
@lexdirect : “goddamn poor mouth-breathers to dumb to ‘get’ my erudite writing. i hate you. i’m better than you and you don’t deserve access!”#Deary - Antonio Barbaro
@AntonioBarbaro:#TerryDeary totally fails to understand either the purpose of libraries or the fact that council tax payers use them http://tinyurl.com/cnmlzut - a. v. walker
@lexdirect: “Why are all the authors coming out in support of libraries when libraries are cutting their throats and slashing their purses?”#TerryDeary - Marie-Louise Jensen
@jensen_ml : I’m currently using two out-of-print library books for research. Where would I find those without a#library?#terrydeary - Jodie Marsh
@Jodiemarsh31:@jensen_ml Wowzers! What’s the man on? (except a PR trip) Not helpful at all. Love Mary Hoffman’s comment below Bookseller piece re PLR. - Jo Catherine
@Kosjanka@@Ceridweb looking at#TerryDeary tag, it’s not just librarians who are cross. Teachers, readers, booksellers and a few other groups too. - TheDisabledDiner
@DisabledDiner: In future I’ll lend out my#horriblehistories books to kids, just to annoy#TerryDeary who supports closure of all libraries to make money.
Further reading
- Anger over Deary library views – BookSeller. Summarises responses such as “Children’s author David Almond, who has spoken out several times on behalf of beleaguered Newcastle libraries, tweeted: “Terry Deary on libraries: self-serving ignorant cynical twaddle.””
- Terry Deary’s horrible library statement – Alan Gibbons. “When I was mounting a campaign against the SAT tests some years ago, I approached Terry for support. He replied that he was an anarchist and we shouldn’t abolish SATs, we should abolish schools! … Some of us who have devoted enormous amounts of time and effort to the library cause, who have marched and petitioned, lobbied and demonstrated, argued with councillors and Ministers feel utterly betrayed by Terry’s words. Does he really want to line up with the philistines? Terry’s pronouncement is not quirky or eccentric or ‘just Terry.’ In current circumstances it is downright irresponsible.”.
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about 11 years ago
Neil Gaiman @neilhimself Selfish & stupid, shortsighted & sad. Mostly selfish. Terry Deary gets avaricious & anti-library: http://bit.ly/15de7Ve
He then goes on to have numerous chats with followers on PLR, libraries etc.
about 11 years ago
Well said, and well argued. In my own experience, father of a three-year-old boy & living in one of the more deprived areas of London, I have been amazed by the excellence of our local library. It is always packed. The childrens’ section is excellent, well run, and thoughtfully managed. It is always full of the little people who will grow into the readers (and even book-buyers!) of tomorrow.
It is not libraries that have damaged book shops, but the growth of internet sales, and the efficiencies of scale with which bookshops (to my regret) cannot now compete. On the plus side, it has made book-buying cheaper and easier for many people.
My son has often loved a library book so much that I have gone on to purchase it for him. But for all the children, not all of whose homes are as madly bookish as mine, the library is no less vital a resource, in so many ways: a place to meet, a place which fosters an excited engagement with literacy, a place where information on all sorts of matters is available to those who most need it and yet are least able to access it elsewhere.
Perhaps an interim solution would be for libraries not to stock any of Mr Deary’s books any more! I can promise him that I will not introduce his work to my children.
about 11 years ago
What an amazing display of personal insults and hatred aimed at a man, rightly or wrongly, giving an opinion. Whoever thought one author could get peoples blood to boil so? From what I’ve read he isn’t saying CLOSE the libraries hes saying there has to be a change to make them a viable service in an ever changing world. Try aiming your fury at the people who CAN influence a change in the right direction. Shame on all of you.
about 11 years ago
Like a lot of people, Terry’s comments made me angry. Having had a chance to reflect though, I think Terry might have actually done (albeit unintentionally?) a huge favour to the campaign to retain libraries and protect them from this ideologically extreme coalition government and its slash and burn approach. Certainly, he made me think a lot more deeply about why I think libraries are vital. Like another commenter, and as a fellow author, I think people commenting, especially via social media, should take a deep breath and count to ten before they post the more personal comments about Terry. Channel your anger and energy into the campaign to save libraries at the national and local level. Scottish authors led by Tony Black are beginning to actively campaign against the decision by Moray Council to close half their libraries. What will work is political pressure, and making it clear to politicians, especially at council level, that they will pay a price at the ballot box for this short-sighted cultural and economic vandalism. Even if you leave aside the moral arguments, there is a very strong economic case for retaining and expanding library provision. We desperately need our libraries and library staff so let’s not get side-tracked.